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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:22 pm

Okay, I know alot of people like, hate or don't see either way about a few NPCs, so I'll let you all decide and discuss.

Here's what we do - I will list a few NPCs; I want you to say 'yes' or 'no' (thus the 'yay' or 'nay') and give reasons why. Then, give constructive ideas that would you would want to happen to have us keep the NPC in the game (or at least keep its base function, such as the Casino).

qrRO Casino - Yay or Nay
qrRO GM Card[s] - Yay or Nay
Plaguelands - Yay or Nay
qrRO Yearly Festivals - Yay or Nay
qrRO Custom Pets - Yay or Nay
Yggdrasil Seller - Yay or Nay
MVP Arena - Yay or Nay

Again, like I said, you need to provide a good reason for your answer and then provide information on how to improve the NPCs or Items that you answered on. This way, I can improve on what you enjoy and neglect what you do not.
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:19 pm

Casino- OUT ( Makes zeny worthless)
Gm Cards- Stay
PlagueLands-OUT,But its a little too late to take out since tons off ppl have 255
Festivals- Stay
Pets- Stay
Berry Seller- OUT (potions and such are useless, But increase the HP Heal)
MvP- OUT ( still a little late... )

[Edit]Taking out Mvp and Plague wouldn't be fair for those who arn't a high lvl. Plus it would take like 20(or w/e) times as long to get 255 than someone that got 255 in plague.

Berry Seller is STUPID. Dam berry Spammers...

I think Zeny should be wiped and also Lower everyones lvl. (somehow)

[Edit2] Lower the Max lvl also...
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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:30 pm

What about your improvements? Mention a few of those.

For example, how does the Casino make zeny worthless?
Why should Plaguelands and the MVP be taken out? Perhaps a level cap on those maps is required?
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:34 pm

Ya Sorry check the edit..
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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:42 pm

Would you prefer a lower monster count in Plaguelands, then?
Also, you never built upon the Casino details.
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Postby It's Dope! » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:45 pm

qrRO Casino - Nay (askews economy)
qrRO GM Card[s] - Yay
Plaguelands - Yay (to be fair to newcomers)
qrRO Yearly Festivals - Yay
qrRO Custom Pets - Yay
Yggdrasil Seller - Yay (up prices though)
MVP Arena - Leaning towards Nay (rarely used, if ever; also makes those monsters and their drops completely worthless)

Or maybe remove Plague and keep MVP Arena... can't decide.

Slightly reduced drops wouldn't hurt, like from the current 15% -> 10%.
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Postby David » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:45 pm

qrRO Casino - Yay
Casino should ONLY exist for exchanging prizes etc, but not zennys

qrRO GM Card[s] - Nay
Hmm i just dont like custom items very much so yeah....and also it makes the game somewhat easy, (example: i have 2 ruri cards now i can make a fresh novice and make him a novice high in 20 minutes)

Plaguelands - Nay
already got a mvp room with like 50 rooms etc, if u wanna kill LoDs just go to theta

qrRO Yearly Festivals - Yay
sounds interesting never seen this NPC before

qrRO Custom Pets - Yay
pets are always a nice addition

Yggdrasil Seller - NAY, the merchant evolution tree would be useless with those there...and makes game easy. suppose to collect them and merchs sell them!

MVP Arena - Yay
I just think it's a nice addition to the server.


-EDIT ON YGGDRASIL-
by useless i mean the discount/overcharge/vend and pharmacy, skills.
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:47 pm

Would you prefer a lower monster count in Plaguelands, then?
Also, you never built upon the Casino details.



O...

Well If i have 100 Billion dollars... Think it would hurt my Amount by buying a Full Flate?

Nah I think plague is stupid.. Or mabe Having like a Few LoD's and way more Zombie Prisoners

Also about MvP... The thing about you having a chance about losing a item when you die gives other people the CHance to sit and wait in MvP till some noob comes in and with one Click BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ASURA STRIKE!!!!DIE!! Then that lil noob trying to lvl could end up losing a item.
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Postby David » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:48 pm

Correction xD max amount is 1 bil. you'll end up with negative 9bil if u got 10bill
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:52 pm

Plates...
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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:53 pm

So you would recommend lowering the spawn rate in Plaguelands and perhaps redoing or removing the MVP arena? Maybe even mixing the two and placing a variety of MVPs in Plaguelands?

I also have in mind of removing the part in the Casino where you can trade in coins, etc, for zeny again (so it's only a one-way process).
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Postby Kimmoy » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:55 pm

qrRO Casino - Yay (for gambling lords...)
qrRO GM Card[s] - Yay
Plaguelands - Yay
qrRO Yearly Festivals - Yay
qrRO Custom Pets - Yay
Yggdrasil Seller - Yay
MVP Arena - Nay
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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:56 pm

It seems we have a mixed response on the Yggdrasil seller - perhaps I should make the NPC a bit less visible and double, if not triple, the prices?
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:57 pm

codemaster @ Jun 3 2006, 03:53 AM wrote: So you would recommend lowering the spawn rate in Plaguelands and perhaps redoing or removing the MVP arena? Maybe even mixing the two and placing a variety of MVPs in Plaguelands?

I also have in mind of removing the part in the Casino where you can trade in coins, etc, for zeny again (so it's only a one-way process).


The Thing is... If you add em both together They start Gang Banging you(if theres a lot). Well I say like 9 Mvp's should be in Plague.

Casino idea is good...
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Postby CrimsonBlade » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:58 pm

casino but wit cash prize, just so that we can gamble
gm card, yay
plauge - yay for lower spawn rates
festival - examples please
custome pets - yay
ygg- seller - NAH!!!!
Mvp - yay for remodel
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Postby codemaster » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:59 pm

_SwordGuy_ @ Jun 2 2006, 10:57 PM wrote:
codemaster @ Jun 3 2006, 03:53 AM wrote: So you would recommend lowering the spawn rate in Plaguelands and perhaps redoing or removing the MVP arena? Maybe even mixing the two and placing a variety of MVPs in Plaguelands?

I also have in mind of removing the part in the Casino where you can trade in coins, etc, for zeny again (so it's only a one-way process).


The Thing is... If you add em both together They start Gang Banging you(if theres a lot). Well I say like 9 Mvp's should be in Plague.

Casino idea is good...


I have already removed the Coin to Zeny NPC in the next server version.

Perhaps I can have Plaguelands spawn various MVPs based on the time of day or day of the week or the such? (That is, if we mixed MVP Arena and Plaguelands)

Also, for those who do not remember, qrRO Festivals are held every year on August 1st; normally I give out a free item to each player that day.
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Postby David » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:59 pm

Well as for the yggdrasil seller, trippling the price might work since it will be too expensive and merchants sell cheaper then them =D
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:02 am

codemaster @ Jun 3 2006, 03:59 AM wrote:
_SwordGuy_ @ Jun 2 2006, 10:57 PM wrote:
codemaster @ Jun 3 2006, 03:53 AM wrote: So you would recommend lowering the spawn rate in Plaguelands and perhaps redoing or removing the MVP arena? Maybe even mixing the two and placing a variety of MVPs in Plaguelands?

I also have in mind of removing the part in the Casino where you can trade in coins, etc, for zeny again (so it's only a one-way process).


The Thing is... If you add em both together They start Gang Banging you(if theres a lot). Well I say like 9 Mvp's should be in Plague.

Casino idea is good...


I have already removed the Coin to Zeny NPC in the next server version.

Perhaps I can have Plaguelands spawn various MVPs based on the time of day or day of the week or the such? (That is, if we mixed MVP Arena and Plaguelands)


O I like that...As long as theres not many..


It seems we have a mixed response on the Yggdrasil seller - perhaps I should make the NPC a bit less visible and double, if not triple, the prices?




That won't do anything... If not it will make the game worse. No one will be in PvP OR Champs will go into PvP Asura the First person they see then warp back to Pront Then heal from the Healring Then Repeat...
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Postby David » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:08 am

hmm....so what ur saying is, even if u get asura'd and died, berries will still be useful? if not remove the yggdrasil seller or raise the price, the champs will STAY and CAMP in pvp instead of warping out, and plus "POTIONS" are actually purchased if you remove or raise the yggdrasil shop.

and the game will be more challenging those who are not up to that could leave, we dont need junk here anyway.

-EDIT after reading swordy's post again-
why would u want berries in pvp for? so the match can last 8 years?
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:10 am

David @ Jun 3 2006, 04:08 AM wrote: hmm....so what ur saying is, even if u get asura'd and died, berries will still be useful? if not remove the yggdrasil seller or raise the price, the champs will STAY and CAMP in pvp instead of warping out, and plus "POTIONS" are actually purchased if you remove or raise the yggdrasil shop.

and the game will be more challenging those who are not up to that could leave, we dont need junk here anyway.

-EDIT after reading swordy's post again-
why would u want berries in pvp for? so the match can last 8 years?


Yes i want Potions to be used not Berries... But potions are kind of useless... They need to be upped. It would take a ton to full heal...

I dont want berries to be used or Berry Seller... I said that before >_>
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Postby David » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:12 am

lol yeah but thats the reason why yggdrasil should be removed! its too rigged to just smash 1 key and have ur HP/SP restored to full.

Ohhh okay-edit-
yeah yggdrasil should be removed but ur quote above.





It seems we have a mixed response on the Yggdrasil seller - perhaps I should make the NPC a bit less visible and double, if not triple, the prices?





That won't do anything... If not it will make the game worse. No one will be in PvP OR Champs will go into PvP Asura the First person they see then warp back to Pront Then heal from the Healring Then Repeat...
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Postby joewyn » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:12 am

you can remove the yggberry seller,
the plagueland? hmmm less the monster spawn = less lag ^_^
festival? owell its just may be 3times a yr.
Gm card= may be lower it. like u did. from 25 to 15 and now 15 to 10 ^_^
MVP? stays dsame.


and finaly those pple who has cheated there accnt must be deleted xD to be fare!! ^_^
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Postby codemaster » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:12 am

Keep in mind Asura is not 'all powerful' in the new server version.
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Postby David » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:14 am

yes i know xD, iv tried the cool down period etc. but still it's still a very powerful move, only thing that can match to it is either sinX or a whitesmith with cart term with perf CT stats.
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Postby _SwordGuy_ » Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:14 am

David @ Jun 3 2006, 04:12 AM wrote: lol yeah but thats the reason why yggdrasil should be removed! its too rigged to just smash 1 key and have ur HP/SP restored to full.

Ohhh okay-edit-
yeah yggdrasil should be removed but ur quote above.





It seems we have a mixed response on the Yggdrasil seller - perhaps I should make the NPC a bit less visible and double, if not triple, the prices?





That won't do anything... If not it will make the game worse. No one will be in PvP OR Champs will go into PvP Asura the First person they see then warp back to Pront Then heal from the Healring Then Repeat...




Ya i meant that If the Price gets raised people will still somehow Spam them or w/e i cant explain it
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